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Microsoft, Tsinghua use Nvidia chip to train AI without real data

Tsinghua University and Microsoft researchers developed a synthetic data pipeline called SynthSmith to train AI models without relying on real-world data, using Nvidia chips for computation.

Using only synthetic data, the team trained a 7-billion-parameter coding model that outperformed larger 14-billion-parameter models on benchmarks.

The experiment used 128 Nvidia H20 chips for 220 hours during supervised fine-tuning and 32 H200 chips for seven days during reinforcement learning.

The researchers said computational limits prevent scaling the approach to models above 100 billion parameters.

They open-sourced the research so others can build on it without high training costs, using Nvidia H20 and H200 chips that are available to Chinese AI firms under export controls.

🔗 Source: South China Morning Post

🧠 Food for thought

Implications, context, and why it matters.

Key details on performance and release plans need to be checked to validate the research

  • Clarification is required for the claim that the research is “open-sourcing.”
  • Code for preparing the training material is posted on GitHub, while the model weights (the trained model parameters needed to run the model) are planned for release without a timeline 1.
  • Licensing terms for the code and the eventual model weights, which set the rules for commercial use, must be confirmed.
  • Performance results should be reviewed beyond broad statements about beating larger models.
  • On LiveCodeBench v5, an average pass rate of 62.9 on eight attempts (avg@8) was reported, while v6 was put at 55.8, ahead of DeepCoder-14B-Preview and AReal-boba2-14B 1.

China-based GPU cloud providers could treat synthetic-data training as a service opportunity, but export-policy and demand claims need tighter sourcing

  • China-based GPU cloud providers could package this synthetic-data training workflow as a paid service for labs and small teams.
  • The experiment ran on Nvidia H20 and H200 chips, with 128 H20 chips used for supervised fine-tuning and 32 H200 chips used for reinforcement learning [News Article].
  • The Trump administration made H20 and H200 chips available to Chinese companies after lobbying by Nvidia to lift export controls [News Article].
  • The authors flagged compute limits as a scaling barrier, so Alibaba Cloud and Tencent Cloud could sell higher-capacity setups to groups trying to replicate or expand the method [News Article].
  • Any demand figure of “over 400,000 H200 units” tied to Alibaba and ByteDance needs clear attribution since it is not supported by the provided source set 2.

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